Gog and Magog

 

Gog and Magog                          

These two ancient oak trees –with the traditional and biblical names of giant beings – stand in one of the further reaches of the sacred Avalon landscape, where they are in a relationship of alignment with other aspects of the sacred landscape such as the nearby Tor, Chalice Hill, the Abbey and Wearyall Hill.
Known as the ‘Oaks of Avalon’, the two trees are said to be a traditional point of entry onto the island, and were also part of a ceremonial Druidic avenue of oak trees running towards the Tor and beyond.


 ‘This avenue was cut down around 1906 to clear the ground of a farm, but someone from the timber firm remembers one of the oaks being 11 feet in diameter and more than 2000 season rings were counted.’ Extract from  Maker of Myths – Published by Gothic Image.

The oak trees gained their names from a legendary race of giants who, save for Gog and Magog were slaughtered by Brutus and his Trojan army.
Gog and Magog were marched to London where they were held chained to the city palace, now the site of the London Guildhall.
These original two giants have been immortalised at London’s Guildhall – scene of the Lord Mayors Annual Banquet – where they stand as two large wooden carvings.

Sacred Geometry
If a line is drawn from the summit of Wearyall hill to the summit of Chalice Hill it would measure one mile (1760 yards) If this line was extended for the same distance it would arrive at Gog and Magog.

Morgana West

With many thanks to Michael Conneely for the photo.

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OGMIOS-OGMA

The Gaulish Hercules who was evidently identical with the god Ogmios. Musee Granet, Aix-en-Provence

The god 'Hercules' from High Rochester (Bremenium), Northunberland. Museum of Antiquities, Newcastle upon Tyne

A Celt, in a discussion with Lucian, explained how the Celtic Ogmios, personifying the power of speech was represented by Heracles rather than Hermes. This Celt made various references to Greek myths in the course of the conversation. - John Rhys, Lectures on the Origin and Growth of Religion as Illustrated by Celtic Heathendom, London 1898.

Stranger, I will tell you the secret of the painting, for you seem very much troubled about it. We Celts do not consider the power of speech to be Hermes, as you Greeks do, but we represent it by means of Heracles, because he is much stronger than Hermes. So if this old man Heracles, the power of speech, draws men after him, tied to his tongue by their ears you have no reason to wonder, as you must be aware of the close connection between the ears and the tongue. ...In a word, we Celts are of opinion that Heracles himself performed everything by the power of words, as he was a wise fellow, and that most of his compulsion was effected by persuasion. His weapons ... are his utterances which are sharp and well aimed, swift to pierce the mind: and you too say that words have wings.

From Miranda Green, Dictionary of Celtic Myth and Legend, pp 165-166, 1992

From Miranda Green, Dictionary of Celtic Myth and Legend, pp 165-166, 1992  

Osismian Stater, Allen fig 23 Osismian Stater, DT 6555, my collection
Do these Northern Gallic coins depict the inage of Ogmios with fibures chained to him as Lucian describes or do they symbolize the Cult of the Severed Head, depicting a warrior with trophies hanging from his horse? I would suggest they represent both, as the Celts were wont to do.

 

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Gog and Magog

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is work Tafseer e Kabeer[36] and in his commentary on Surah Al-Kahaf (Urdu).[37] According to this interpretation, Gog and Magog were descendants of Noah who populated eastern and western Europe long ago; the Ahmadi cite the folkloric British interpretation of Gog and Magog as giants (see below) as support for their view.[38]

[edit] In The Travels of Marco Polo

In The Travels dictated by Marco Polo, Gog and Magog are regions of Tenduk, a province belonging to Prester John, and governed by one George, fourth in descent from the original John. According to this account Gog (locally Ung) is inhabited by a tribe called the Gog, whilst Magog (or Mongul) is inhabited by Tatars.

[edit] As Napoleon in Russia

During the Napoleon Bonaparte's Invasion of Russia, some Chasidic rabbis identified this major war and upheaval as "The War of Gog and Magog", which would precede the coming of the Messiah [39].

[edit] Gog and Magog in Britain

[edit] Giants

Gog and Magog figures based on the British mythology, located in the Royal Arcade, Melbourne

Given this somewhat frightening Biblical imagery, it is somewhat odd that images of Gog and Magog depicted as giants are carried in a traditional procession in the Lord Mayor's Show by the Lord Mayor of the City of London. According to the tradition, the giants Gog and Magog are guardians of the City of London, and images of them have been carried in the Lord Mayor's Show since the days of King Henry V. The Lord Mayor's procession takes place each year on the second Saturday of November.

The Lord Mayor's account of Gog and Magog says that the Roman Emperor Diocletian had thirty-three wicked daughters. He found thirty three husbands for them to curb their wicked ways; they chafed at this, and under the leadership of the eldest sister, Alba, they murdered them. For this crime, they were set adrift at sea; they were washed ashore on a windswept island, which after Alba was called Albion. Here they coupled with demons, and gave birth to a race of giants, among whose descendants were Gog and Magog.[40]

An even older British connection to Gog and Magog appears in Geoffrey of Monmouth's influential 12th century Historia Regum Britanniae, which states that Goemagot was a giant slain by the eponymous Cornish hero Corin or Corineus. The tale figures in the body of unlikely lore that has Britain settled by the Trojan soldier Brutus and other fleeing heroes from the Trojan War. Corineus is supposed to have slain the giant by throwing him into the sea near Plymouth. Wace (Roman de Brut), Layamon (Layamon's Brut) (who calls the giant Goemagog), and other chroniclers retell the story, which was picked up by later poets and romanciers. John Milton's History of Britain gives this version:

The Island, not yet Britain, but Albion, was in a manner desert and inhospitable, kept only by a remnant of Giants, whose excessive Force and Tyrannie had consumed the rest. Them Brutus destroies, and to his people divides the land, which, with some reference to his own name, he thenceforth calls Britain. To Corineus, Cornwall, as now we call it, fell by lot; the rather by him lik't, for that the hugest Giants in Rocks and Caves were said to lurk still there; which kind of Monsters to deal with was his old exercise.
And heer, with leave bespok'n to recite a grand fable, though dignify'd by our best Poets: While Brutus, on a certain Festival day, solemnly kept on that shore where he first landed (Totnes), was with the People in great jollity and mirth, a crew of these savages, breaking in upon them, began on the sudden another sort of Game than at such a meeting was expected. But at length by many hands overcome, Goemagog, the hugest, in hight twelve cubits, is reserved alive; that with him Corineus, who desired nothing more, might try his strength, whom in a Wrestle the Giant catching aloft, with a terrible hugg broke three of his Ribs: Nevertheless Corineus, enraged, heaving him up by main force, and on his shoulders bearing him to the next high rock, threw him hedlong all shatter'd into the sea, and left his name on the cliff, called ever since Langoemagog, which is to say, the Giant's Leap.

Michael Drayton's Polyolbion preserves the tale as well:

Amongst the ragged Cleeves those monstrous giants sought:
Who (of their dreadful kind) t'appal the Trojans brought
Great Gogmagog, an oake that by the roots could teare;
So mighty were (that time) the men who lived there:
But, for the use of armes he did not understand
(Except some rock or tree, that coming next to land,
He raised out of the earth to execute his rage),
He challenge makes for strength, and offereth there his gage,
Which Corin taketh up, to answer by and by,
Upon this sonne of earth his utmost power to try.

[edit] Gog Magog Hills

Main article: Gog Magog Hills

The Gog Magog Hills are about three miles south of Cambridge, said to be the metamorphosis of the giant after being rejected by the nymph Granta (i.e. the River Cam). The dowser T.C. Lethbridge claimed to have discovered a group of three hidden chalk carvings in the Gogmagog Hills. This alleged discovery is described at length in his book Gogmagog: The Buried gods [4], in which Lethbridge uses his discoveries to extrapolate a primal deity named 'Gog' and his consort, 'Ma-Gog', which he believed represented the Sun and Moon. Although his discovery of the chalk figures in the Gogmagog Hills has been dogged by controversy, there are similarities between the name and nature of the purported 'Gog' and the Irish deity Ogma, or the Gaulish Ogmios.

The Cambridge molly side, Gog Magog, take their name from these hills.

[edit] Gog and Magog in Ireland

Works of Irish mythology, including the Lebor Gabála Érenn (the Book of Invasions), expand on the Genesis account of Magog as the son of Japheth and make him the ancestor to the Irish. His three sons were Baath, Jobhath, and Fathochta. Magog is regarded as the father of the Irish race, and the progenitor of the Scythians, as well as of numerous other races across Europe and Central Asia.

Partholon, leader of the first group to colonize Ireland after the Deluge, was a descendant of Magog. The Milesians, or people of the 5th invasion of Ireland, were also descendants of Magog.

[edit] See also

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OGMIOS-OGMA

The Gaulish Hercules who was evidently identical with the god Ogmios. Musee Granet, Aix-en-Provence

The god 'Hercules' from High Rochester (Bremenium), Northunberland. Museum of Antiquities, Newcastle upon Tyne

A Celt, in a discussion with Lucian, explained how the Celtic Ogmios, personifying the power of speech was represented by Heracles rather than Hermes. This Celt made various references to Greek myths in the course of the conversation. - John Rhys, Lectures on the Origin and Growth of Religion as Illustrated by Celtic Heathendom, London 1898.

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OGMIOS, LORD OF ELOQUENCE

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One who Binds by Speach

 

Religion

RELIGION — a Word derived from the Latin religáre:

re-, again; anew + ligáre, to bind; to tie together.

The joining of members together in conscious devotion

through the use of ardently convincing actions and languaging.

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Ogmios or Oghma of legend was born of the descendants of the Tuatha dé Dannan (People of the Goddess Danaan), divine folk of pre-Celtic, pre-Anglo-Saxon (Germanic), pre-Christian Britain, a time when worship (worth-ship) was reserved  for the veneration of human spirits

— for people of Art.

 

The Axis Age

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ALBION, "THE WHITE ISLAND"

According to a history shrouded in myth, this ancient culture is believed to have been of the tribe of Dan who immigrated from the Levant, on the eastern Mediteranean shore, to the Isle of Albion (Britain), bringing with them the harp and the sacred Laig-fial (the Fatal Stone or Stone of Destiny) reputedly used as a pillow by Jacob as he received a prophetic vision, and later used as a support for the Ark of the Covenant in the temple in Jerusalem. It became the Cloch na cineamhna, Stone of Fortune, later the Stone of Scone, traditional coronation sitting stone for Irish, Scottish and English monarchs.

 

This was the Axis or Axial Age from India to the Mediterranean and west, a period of commercial, intellectual and artistic flowering which began about 700 B.C.E. in the turbulance of the rising of Mediterranean Urban Culture, as the innovative phonetic alphabet facilitated commerce and the exchange of ideas following the general catastrophies and collapse of empires at the end of the Bronze Age, circa 1,000 B.C.E. 

 

In the post-Homeric Axis Age, especially in the 6th century B.C.E., a veritable flood of great thinkers and their disciples were alive, writing and speaking, shaping the prototypes of the Common Era’s great religions and philosophies. These, humanity's oldest recorded Geniuses, included Zarathustra (Zoroastrism), Confucius, Siddhartha Guatama (Buddha), Lao-Tse (Taoism), Mahavira (Jainism), and the pre-Socratic philosophers, writers and lyric poets, including Thales, Aeschlus, Pindar, Ćopios, Pythagoras and Xenophanes.

 

The people of Dan, many of whom were sailors, had fled by sailing ships with the dispersal of the Ten Tribes after the invasion of Israel by the Assyrian armies of Sargon II in the late 8th Century B.C.E.  A later  immigration followed the invasion by the Babylonian Chaldeans under King Nebuchadnessar II, and the destruction of the (first) temple of Jerusalem in the early 6th century B.C.E. This exodus is reputed to have been led by the renowned prophet Jeremiah escorting Princess Tea-Tephi, daughter of the murdered King Zedekiah and only remaining descendant in the hallowed lineage of David.

 

To this pivotal historic period of the Axis Age within the maturing Iron Age we trace the origins in Britain of the legendary Ogmios, believed to have been born of Brigit of the family of Dagda, “the good god.” Ogmios was the father of Mac Cecht who married the beautiful Fodhla, famed for her shapeliness and sister of Banba, the first Queen of Ireland.

Remembered as the Father of Eloquence, Ogmios was a persuasive speaker who revealed and inspired by the Word, a great poet, teacher, musician, healer, magician and inventor of the Ogham alphabet used in the earliest Irish writings. He is said to have died at the last battle at Mag Tuireadh as, in victory, he took the speaking sword of king Tethra of the Formonians. But, in other accounts, he survived transformed and went on a quest for Dagda's harp.

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Speaking of Words

Ogmios was often depicted as an old man, bald and burnt by the sun, known to others as grianainech, “of the smiling (or sun-like) countenance.”  He is remembered as a man of language, as a trénfher, 'champion', literally 'strong man,' and as a psychopomp of transformations, leading souls from one world to another by invocation, which is to say,
by the speaking of Words. 
 
In his most famous portrayals, he is seen
drawing a happy band of men behind him,
attached to him by

barely-substantial gold chains

linking their ears to his tongue.

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