Some Irish / New World connections

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Simón Bolívar (1783-1830
 

St. Patrick's Day in Peru, 1824
By Brian McGinn

Published by www.irishdiaspora.net. An earlier version of this article originally appeared in Irish Roots magazine, N° 1, 1995, pp. 26-27.

The three Irishmen who gathered that cold summer [1] night in Peru were soldiers in the army of Simón Bolívar, the hero of South America's war for independence. Bolívar's struggle against Spain had won sympathy and support in Ireland. At least 2,500 Irish soldiers and sailors joined Bolívar's cause. [2] Daniel O'Connell sent his teenage son Morgan to fight in Venezuela [3], and in 1826 O'Connell borrowed for himself the title originally bestowed on Bolívar in 1813: The Liberator. [4]

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source and more of the story from  http://www.irishargentine.org/mcginnperu1.htm

 

 

 

 

 

William Lamport (1610-1659)
(Enrique Alciati, 1910.
Monumento a la Independencia,
Mexico City)
 

Dictionary of Irish Latin American Biography

Lamport, William [Guillén Lombardo] (1610-1659), author of an early declaration of Mexican independence and self-proclaimed 'King of New Spain', was born in Wexford Town, County Wexford, Ireland, around the year 1610. He is more popularly known in Mexico and Latin America by his Spanish alias 'Don Guillén Lombardo de Guzmán'.

source and more of the story from  http://www.irishargentine.org/dilab_lamportw.htm

 

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Old News examines discoveries over the past 25 years that indicate Plains Indians had visitors from the far side of the Atlantic a thousand years before Columbus sailed from Iberia. More than a half dozen archaeoastronomical panels are documented with timelapse film and videography on the equinoxes, the summer solstice and Lughnasad. Only after translations of the associated grooved writings were these solar alignments first observed. We examine the nature of Irish Ogham and how it compares to the consonantal variety found in America, show the sort of explosive reaction this subject ignites among American archaeologists, follow a researcher as he applies his nuclear chemical analysis to dating some Ogham rock writings, propose that these foreigners may have worshipped Mithras revealed by their layered iconography and specific Indo-European star charts detailing Mithras' regulation of orderly celestial cycles, discuss the humanity of these powerful discoveries, and conclude with a postscript suggesting an even earlier expedition from a seaport on the southern coast of the Arabian peninsula based on the unique Dhofari alphabet found on other heavily patinated rocks in America's heartland.

 
Rock art discoveries over the past generation demonstrate Christopher Columbus was a relative late-comer among European sailors who explored North America. The exciting evidence, dated by nuclear chemistry, is carved on the remote sandstone cliffs and within caves of the rugged Oklahoma panhandle and southeastern Colorado canyon country. Written messages in an ancient Celtic alphabet known as Ogham survive in proximity to the more abundant imagery of the wonderful petroglyphic art of the Plains Indians. Old News documents the passion by advocates of pre-Columbian, trans-Atlantic contact and the stunning intolerance of most professional archaeologists to seriously consider the evidence. Particularly compelling are archaeoastronomical links to the Old World. Rock art shadow plays that occur only at equinox sunrises and sunsets, a Lughnasad cross-quarter dawn and a summer solstice sunset are all accompanied by predictive Ogham inscriptions. Additionally, engraved constellation maps tie these remarkable finds to distinctively Indo-European understandings of the Zodiac in ancient times. ...........

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the Old Stone Fort in Manchester , Tennessee

 Old Stone Fort submitted by bat400

"Hillfort" Earthwork in USA.
The aboriginal site of Old Stone Fort State Archeological Park is on a plateau just a couple of miles to the west of Manchester, which is to the northwest of Chattanooga, Tennessee.

The area is at the western edge of the Cumberland Plateau in the southeastern United States.

As one approaches the entrance to the complex from the east, the earth & rock mounds terminating the perimeter walls on either side of the entrance are clearly prominent. Beyond these mounds which flank the entrance, is a 4 foot deep trench which was originally 8 feet deep when the complex was used. Beyond this are the walls of the rectangular structure which run parallel approximately 90 feet and are about 5 feet high now. The entrance ends of these walls turn inward to form a passage narrower than the corridor. At the end of this construction the wall to the north (or right) turns at a right angle to the south, herding you out facing the south. The corridor is aligned so that the summer solstice sunrise shines through the entrance and down the corridor against the wall at the western end of the structure.

If you were to continue on this course around the immense oval shaped ceremonial area of 50 acres which is elongated on an East/West orientation, you would be traveling diocel along the stone wall that runs the perimeter from the southern mound of the entrance structure to the cliff that completes it to at the opposite end of the ceremonial field. A large grove of trees blocks any view of this. At the base of the southern stone wall, descends a very steep incline down to the Little Duck River. A cave can be seen on the other side of this river. On the other end of the cliff, the wall begins again, running northwest and then northeast to the bluff of Big Falls on the Big Duck River. This wall is surrounded on the outside by a mote dug into the old riverbed. The wall begins again from the other end of the bluff and ends at the north mound of the entrance structure.

The construction itself is found to be 2,000 years old by the archaeological record; but by the same studies, was found to be under development since 7,000 years BP. The Woodland culture, to which the stone construction is connected, is said to have used the site for 500 years. There has been no evidence found of any occupation, which leads to the conclusion that this site was strictly for ceremonial purposes. The walls are of stone inner and outer cores that run parallel throughout. The trench in between the two walls is floored with shale slabs, then filled and capped with earth and rubble. Due to wear and weathering, the walls have diminished and the earth has spilled over to hide any appearance of the stone.

This site is said to be near a capital of the native “province of Chlaca “ recorded by DeSoto’s chronicler during the late Mississippian period in 1540. It is said by some to have not been unique at one time, but is now the only one known due to development over the course of the historic period. There are also stories of the site being haunted, built by Atlanteans, Lemurians, Nightgoers, Mayans, Prince Madoc’s men, and the DeSoto expedition. Though it does resemble a British hill fort in some respects, there is no doubt from the archaeological record that it was used by Native Americans from the Archaic on through the Middle Woodland periods.

For other photos of the site, go to
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 Old Stone Fort submitted by bat400
Southwest wall of the "Old Stone Fort." A 1.5 mile trail leads you around the base of the walls enclosing the 50 acres of space within the "Fort." These are walls of earth capping and surrounding a double stone wall. Given erosion the walls varied from a few feet to 12 feet high when new depending on the lay of the land. Photo by bat400, 13 Jul 2006.

Old Stone Fort submitted by bat400
Interior of the "Old Stone Fort." The flat expanse enclosed by the earth and stone walls and cliffs dropping down to the Duck River shows no evidence of settlement. Was this a gathering place for government or religion? Was it a place where all those of the society periodically went for celebration or instruction, or a ritual area where a chosen few might commune with the spirit world? T

  source - The Megalithic Portal
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=11079     .

 

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Peru Temple, Mural Hints At Complexity

4,000-Year-Old Temple, Colorful Mural In Peru Hint At 'Complex' Civilization

LIMA, Peru, Nov. 13, 2007

The sophisticated design and colorful artwork found in a 4,000-year-old temple unearthed near Peru's northern desert coast suggests that early civilization here was more complex than originally thought, archaeologists said.

Ventarron, a 7,000-square-foot site _ a bit larger than a basketball court _ with painted walls and a white-and-red mural of a deer hunt, points to an "advanced civilization," said the lead archaeologist who excavated the site last week.

"We have the use of a construction material that is not primitive," Walter Alva, a prominent Peruvian archaeologist who headed the government-funded dig, said of the temple's mud bricks, which were made from local river sediments instead of rocks.

The pre-Incan structure's "harmonious" design is typical of later temples and demonstrates remarkable precision: it points due north, Alva said told The Associated Press by telephone.

Alva, who led one of Peru's most famous archaeological digs uncovering the Moche Lords of Sipan tombs in the late 1980s, said results from carbon dating conducted in the U.S. show that the Ventarron temple was constructed 4,000 years ago.

Fragments of paint found on the walls and an almost completely intact inner mural show the civilization had "the concept of decoration," Alva said.

"This discovery once again supports the rising of complexity early in Peru," said Kit Nelson, a Tulane University archaeology professor who specializes in early desert-dwelling cultures. The find "provides new early dates for the decorating of public architecture and the use of adobe bricks."

Robert Benfer, an archaeologist based at the University of Missouri-Columbia who has studied early Peruvian civilization for more than 30 years, said that many early temples were painted and had murals, but that most were not preserved.

"We're beginning to think they're more common than we used to think. It's all the luck of preservation," Benfer said in a telephone interview with the AP.

Alva said bones of Amazonian parrots and monkeys were found on the site, 405 miles north of the capital, Lima, indicating that Ventarron's society traded with counterparts in Peru's distant jungle.

The oldest known city in the Americas is Caral, also near the Peruvian coast, which researchers date to 2627 B.C.

source - CBS News .......

 

 

Holy Cross is a local and National Historic Register Historic District – one of 19 local and national districts in New Orleans – the largest concentration of any American city. WMF points to the primary threats facing the neighborhood: hurricane damage, gutting and looting, lack of resources.  .......

....  This newest list of “100 Most Endangered Sites” is astounding, sobering – places that are vital to human history and culture. Holy Cross is in dire company: others include the Cultural Heritage Sites of Iraq, Machu Picchu in Peru, Tara Hill, a sacred landscape in Ireland, as well as the Bamiyan Buddhas in Afghanistan and Russia’s St. Petersburg Skyline. There’s more: sites across China, in Egypt, several throughout the U.S., even Scott’s Hut (the explorer’s) on Ross Island in Antarctica.

http://www.helpholycross.org/2007/07/index.html

 

 

related bits from HillOfTara Newsgroup

 

> I doubt that our (Irish) ancestors moved to Peru. But over the years Ì
> have conducted alot of research into ancient, some times borderline,
> historty, including extensive studies of the Book of Genesis and the
> Edda (the Edda is a collection of early legends, including the Nordic
> creaton myth, of northern Europe. Most of them dating back to the end
> of the last ice age.). I came to the conclusion that Earth before the
> last ice age was covered in a network of interlinked and highly
> advanced civilizations. Tara, the structures in the Boyne Valley, in
> Peru, under the sea off the Fla coast or in the Egyptian Nile Valley
> are all remnants of this ancient civilization. But this is a topic for
> another E-group at another time.
>
> Michael Martin


But this topic isnt at all irrelevant to the immediate task of
stopping the destruction

If Tara is part of a global network of sacred and/or astronomical
sites dating from a connected culture existing several thousand years BC

then she belongs to the world

and that is entirely relevant as to whether a consultation with Meath
County Council - however properly conducted - is qualified to decide
put her under tarmac for the debateable convenience of commuters for
the few years before commuting from Navan to Dublin by car becomes
entirely uneconomic

" Archaeogeodesy, as a new and developing area of scientific inquiry,
illustrates how decisions impacting ancient monuments are made before
science develops the tools required to fully study and understand what
is being destroyed. The classic example of this dilemna is the burning
of the Mayan codices due to religious paradigms; the texts were
considered false religion. Today, from three surviving books, the
codices are known to be scientific, in fact, the most advanced
astronomical texts from that time. From my archaeological viewpoint,
an ancient book written on the earth, a geodetic codex, is being
destroyed in our time. Our prevailing 'scientific' paradigm is the
sum, to a large degree, of beliefs in our time, reflecting ignorance
of the past and of the purpose of the Neolithic monuments. What has
changed is the scale of the codex being burned. "  

 quotation from http://www.jqjacobs.net/blog/neolithic.html

 

 


It was only after the 1967 war between Israel and Egypt that the Dead Sea Scrolls were found.  They have proven a priceless library, including 8 copies of the Book of Enoch, in which he describes the building at Newgrange and explains its purpose, which was scientific astronomy.  They "watched" the motions of the moon around the earth; the motions of the earth around the Sun; and the motions of the Sun revolving around a binary companion Star, thought to be Sirius, causing the Precession of the Constellations. 

Enoch was the grandfather of Noah.  The great flood has several competing dates, but from a scientific analysis, it appears that it occurred 12,000 to 13,000 years ago.

My point is that we do not know what would be found at the Tara Complex if it were under the investigation of reputable archaeologists, instead of the archaeolobutchers of Ireland.  China is currently uncovering an ancient civilization that was unknown 10 years ago.  Their archaeologists have been working for 10 years now, uncovering and saving every scrap of evidence.  They are practicing archaeology, not "Measure, Photograph, and Destroy" as is being done at Tara.

See my earlier post on China.

Richard
Chicago


 

 

Isle of Brasil        

http://www.eaudrey.com/myth/Places/isle_of_brasil.htm

Hy-Brassil: Irish origins of Brazil   http://www.irlandeses.org/0607mitchell1.htm

 

'Oldest American mural' is found in Peruvian temple

By David Usborne in New York

Published: 13 November 2007

Archaeologists in Peru have unearthed the ruins of a pre-Incan temple which appears to date back to about 2,000 years before the time of Jesus Christ and features colourful murals which may be the oldest found anywhere in the Americas.

"It's a temple that is about 4,000 years old," said Walter Alva, who in the 1980s led excavations of the nearby Sipan temple complex that includes the tomb of a pre-Incan king dating from about 1,700 years ago. Both sites are in the Lambayeque valley, a desert area close to the Pacific Ocean in the north of the country.

The new discovery is especially significant because of its extraordinary antiquity. It was dated after materials from the site were sent to the US for carbon analysis. "What is surprising are the construction methods, the architectural design and, most of all, the existence of murals that could be the oldest in the Americas," Mr Alva added.

The temple, built out of bricks crafted from sediment found into local rivers, rather than rocks, has been named Ventarron. It features a staircase rising to what appears to have been an altar for the worship of fire gods, as well as murals in white, red and yellow. One wall painting depicts a deer being hunted with nets.

Ventarron will join Peru's impressive inventory of archaeological treasures, which most notably include Machu Picchu in the Andes – recently voted one of the seven new wonders of the world. The ruins at Machu Picchu are considerably younger than those at Ventarron, however. They date from the Incan empire, which spanned several centuries until the arrival of the Spanish conquistadors in the early 1500s, and stretched from Colombia and Ecuador in the north to what are now Peru and Chile in the south.

Mr Alva said the temple at Ventarron was built by an "advanced civilisation" and provided fresh evidence of the importance of the region, about 470 miles north of Lima, as a crossroads of cultural exchange during that period between communities in the Pacific region and the rest of Peru.

It also suggests the existence of an evolved human society with well-developed traditions of worship, construction, decoration and hunting. "This discovery shows an architectural and iconographic tradition different from what has been known until now," Mr Alva added. "There is no other monument in existence in the north of Peru that has these characteristics."

It is believed that temples of the pre-Incan period were deliberately buried and revered as sacred sites when they were no longer considered of importance. This probably explains why many are found in a surprisingly good state of repair. When Mr Alva first began exploring Ventarron, it was covered by a rubbish tip. He conceded that some bricks may have been removed by locals to build homes and pig pens.

The temple is close to the larger excavation at Sipan, which has been under Mr Alva's the supervision since the 1980s. Most of the structures unearthed at Sipan, including three adobe pyramids, ramps and platforms, have been traced to the pre-Incan Moche civilisation, which is believed to have occupied the region from AD200 to AD800.

The most thrilling discoveries at Sipan were royal tombs filled with gold and other examples of clothing and ceramics associated with the Moche elite, including the Lord of Sipan Tomb. Mr Alva is also the director of the Sipan Royal Tombs Museum at the site.

While the murals at Ventarra may be older than any seen in the Americas, the temple itself may be slightly younger than the remains of the ancient city of Caral, also near the Peruvian coast, which has been dated to 2,627BC.

 

 

 

CLOUD PEOPLE

15 November 2007 18:13
Mummies of 'cloud warriors' tribe found in Peruvian cave

By Daniel Howden

Published: 07 October 2006

Archaeologists in Peru have discovered an underground burial vault that could unlock the mystery of a pre-Colombian tribe known as the "warriors of the clouds".

The Chachapoyas commanded a vast kingdom stretching across the Andes to the fringe of Peru's northern Amazon jungle until they were conquered by the Incas in the 15th century.

The Incan empire was itself overrun soon after by the Spanish, and details of the Chachapoyas and their way of life were lost or destroyed in the widespread pillaging that followed.

Now a team of archaeologists, working on a tip-off from a local farmer, have uncovered a burial site in a 820ft-deep cave. The researchers have so far found five mummies, two of which are intact with skin and hair, as well as ceramics, textiles and wall paintings, the expedition's leader, Herman Corbera, told Reuters.

"This is a discovery of transcendental importance. We have found these five mummies but there could be many more," Mr Corbera said. "We think this is the first time any kind of underground burial site this size has been found belonging to Chachapoyas or other cultures in the region."

The tribe's own name is unknown. The word Chachapoyas is thought to come from the Quechua for "cloud people", and is the name by which they were known to the Incas, because of the cloud forests they inhabited in what is now northern Peru. A white-skinned people who were famed as ferocious fighters, the Chachapoyas held out against the Incans, who ruled an empire stretching from southern Chile to northern Ecuador until their conquest by the Spanish.

Today, the Cloud People are best known for their stone citadel, Kuelap, with more than 400 buildings and massive exterior stone walls, which is often referred to as the Machu Picchu of the north.

Mr Corbera said the walls in the limestone cave near the mummies were covered with paintings of faces and warrior-like figures which may have been drawn to ward off intruders and evil spirits.

"The remote site for this cemetery tells us that the Chachapoyas had enormous respect for their ancestors because they hid them away for protection," Mr Corbera said. "Locals call the cave Iyacyecuj, or Enchanted Water in Quechua, because of its spiritual importance and its underground rivers.

"The idea now is to turn this cave into a museum, but we've got a huge amount of research to do first and protecting the site is a big issue."

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